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miriam_e ([personal profile] miriam_e) wrote2005-06-19 06:18 am

the war against your children

Just thinking again about the hypocritical stupidity that is the current attitude to drugs:
Tell kids a bunch of lies about drugs, then when they find out and do the whole baby-bathwater thing and try to find out first-hand what is the big deal about drugs, our society washes its hands of them.

It is infuriatingly irresponsible to "educate" kids with a bunch of lies, and utterly criminal to condemn them when they become curious about the lies.

Our policy-makers should be in prison, not the kids who try to find out what all the damn fuss is about.

It is despicable that kids are not told that alcohol is more dangerous than heroin; that there is no excuse for anyone overdosing on heroin in the company of others. A heroin overdose simply means that the body forgets to breathe and quietly suffocates while the person dozes. Mouth-to-mouth resucitation will avoid death until a medical person can give a shot of apomorphine to instantly restore the victim to normal. Alcohol, on the other hand, is a dead end. Overdosing on it means brain death, from which there is no returning. And a deadly dose can be a surprisingly small amount.

All drugs should be legal and should come with honest information of the dangers and safety procedures involved in their use. The way to stop people using drugs is not to try to scare them away from demonised drugs, but to give enough knowledge to understand that drug use is actually unimportant and rather silly. It should be clear to kids why addiction develops and that it is the same mechanism as tolerance. They should also be aware that long-term changes in behavior and possibly in brain chemistry are also a risk of drug-use, but that nobody really knows what those changes might be. We are just starting to get some hints, but nobody really understands yet, because retarded policy-makers have prevented researchers from learning about it.

Recreational drugs really are a giant waste of time. I know because I wasted years learning first hand, but if I mmention this in normal company I see the shutters close behind people's eyes. The propaganda makes them think that I am one of those monsters and I see their eyes go to their valuables and their children thinking that both need to be kept away from me. The propaganda machine prevents those very people who could give the information from passing it on. How can society ever learn when we break that chain?

We need to let kids know why drugs are a waste, not just lay down rules to be blindly followed. What society are we building when our most curious and rebellious children are allowed to die and be imprisoned for being curious and rebelling against lies?

[identity profile] peaseblossom03.livejournal.com 2005-06-18 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I've long held the theory that overblowing (and fictionalizing) the dangers of pot (like the infamous 2 kids with a gun commercial, or the running-over-the-kid-on-the-bike commercial) is doing FAR more harm than good, and here's why.

Johnny's 10 or so, and he's heard all about how terribly bad ALL drugs are. If you smoke a joint, you're gonna jump off the roof thinking you can fly. Ecstasy does such-and-such. Heroin does whatever. Coke does this and this. Fine.

Then Johnny goes to college. He sees that while the drinkers are too hungover to get out of bed to go to morning classes, the stoners are up early to get breakfast. So he finally thinks, screw this, I'm gonna try pot too! And he does. And lo and behold, he doesn't shoot his friend or run over a kid on a bike or attempt to rape his girlfriend at a party or have an urge to jump off the roof. All he really is, is hungry and a little giggly. OK, so, Johnny naturally thinks, "Wait a minute! The Man was lying to me about weed! They must be lying to me about X and smack and coke too!" and therein lies the problem.

One commedian suggested making all drugs legal, but only accessible by way of the Bureau of Motor Vehicles. LOL.

[identity profile] miriam-e.livejournal.com 2005-06-21 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That is the problem exactly.

It is part of that effect I posted a while back where some things have an initial result that works in one direction, but further force gives the opposite result, and of course people often don't understand and so try pushing even harder, to be mystified when the result is even further from that expected.

Our "leaders" don't appear to learn from such mistakes. It is almost like they have some kind of mental block -- they don't appear to be able to understand complex, non-linear reactions.
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[identity profile] kremmen.livejournal.com 2005-06-19 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Recreational drugs really are a giant waste of time. I know because I wasted years learning first hand

Television is a giant waste of time too, especially if you watch it for years. In small doses, it can be quite interesting and entertaining. Drugs, likewise.

[identity profile] miriam-e.livejournal.com 2005-06-21 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I kinda agree with you here...

Recreational drugs can be used for entertainment without problems. It is just that, like television they rarely are.

They should as legal as TV. But we should have honest research and information into their negative and positive effects. Lies and tainted "research" just make things worse.