knights

May. 24th, 2006 04:37 pm
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I got stuck trying to draw a cartoon of a knight for a short job so looked on the net for pictures to help. In my searches I stumbled across this extraordinary site. Knight's Armoury It is a pity I don't have more time because I could spend ages here. I am not the slightest bit interested in medieval times or war or weapons, but the detailed information here on how to make "ancient" knights' armour is fascinating. If you ever wondered how those suits were made, then take a look, but don't blame me if you spend hours. :)

Jenna. You're in the SCA (Society for Creative Anachronism). You'd love this stuff.

Eek! Java alert!

Date: 2006-05-24 01:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revbobbob.livejournal.com
The Knight's Armoury main page has an embedded Java applet that takes approximately forever to load, to no discernable purpose.

Since I'm applying for a job as a Java programmer, I guess maybe I shouldn't be bringing this up, huh? :)

Re: Eek! Java alert!

Date: 2006-05-24 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriam-e.livejournal.com
Oh dear. I didn't realise that. I leave Java switched off in my web browser after having it slow my machine to a pathetic crawl or even crash it far too many times.

If you put some java on a web page perhaps it is worth putting a text comment on there too, saying that enabling java on this page makes for a much enhanced experience.

Too often, though, people seem to use it for trivial things that could be just as easily done by ordinary html. The straw that broke the camel's back for me was recently going to a site full of old cartridges, cassettes, and disks for Tandy ColorComputers (the CoCo is/was a wonderful little machine), but all the download buttons were java applets!!!! EEAAGGHH!! It kept crashing my machine so I ended up switching off java permanently, and using wget (from the Free Software Foundation) to download all the files. Now my (emulated) CoCo rides again. Woo hoo!

CoCo?????

Date: 2006-05-26 10:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revbobbob.livejournal.com
OMG! I am so blogging this. The CoCo-VRML Connection rides again!

Yup. You're talking to the guy who wrote FOXYGRAF, quite possibly the worst paint program ever written for any computer, ever. The manual was pretty good, though. SEMIDRAW, a much better program (but the manual wasn't nearly as good) was developed by a guy I met on the IrishSpace project and actually had breakfast with at a VRML conference -- I think you may know him yourself -- Paul Hoffman. And now we find out you're a CoCoer too!

In honor of your coming out, allow me to present APPLES, a game I wrote for the CoCo and sent to Computerware in Encinitas CA, but they never sold it. Nonetheless, it's leaked out somehow, and welcome to it, CoCo fans!

I haven't got my emulator up yet, so if APPLES actually works, please let me know.

It works!!

Date: 2006-05-27 01:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriam-e.livejournal.com
Heheheheh It really works.
I tried it with the CoCo2 emulator downloadable from
http://discover-net.net/~dmkeil

It requires a tiny bit of setting up. You have to make sure the Disk BASIC cartridge is loaded (don't forget to Shift-F10 to cold reset) then load the game into the virtual disk drive, loadm it, exec, and you are away!

Paul Hoffman was a CoConut too? Cool! :)

I didn't sell any CoCo software. My machine was mostly used to fiddle with fractals and chaos.

On my lap right now is a big folder I wrote of hundreds of handwritten pages of the CoCo ROMs I disassembled and commented. Ahhh the good old days, when obsessive-compulsive was being focussed instead of a disorder. :) (Not that I'm truly OCS... at least I don't think so... well, sure, I used to step only on, or only between, the cracks in the pavement, but everyone does that, right? :) heheheh

That CoCo gave me a lot of fun. There were a number of hardware projects I built for it. I noticed that a couple of gates could be hooked up to the video to make a black screen with green writing. I built a ROM burner that plugged into the cartridge port. I made a microphone that used the CoCo's cheapo D to A converter with its analog comparator to digitise sound. Later I got disk drives and OS9. Man! That was a wonderful operating system! Multiuser, multitasking, OS in less than 64k!!!!! Very cool. Let the kings of software bloat digest that!

Most of all I loved the 6809 processor. Writing assembly code for it was almost like writing a high level language.

[Sigh!]

Memories.

Re: It works!!

Date: 2006-05-30 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revbobbob.livejournal.com
Wonderful news. Hope you like it.

About the 6809, it was a dream. I still get a sensuous thrill out of thinking about "LDA". The condition codes were written by the angels: if you have to do a compare on the 6809, you're just not trying. And the addressing modes! The instruction pair for NEXT in the FIG-Forth compiler (which I used for my Forth-83) was:

LDX ,Y++
JMP [,X]

I also have an anally commented ROM listing. There was some seriously cool stuff in those routines. I remember Bill Gates (or whoever actually wrote it) having

LDA #$4C
BEQ somewhere

which at first glance looked stupid (the immediate would set the condition code to nonzero) but the cool think about it was that 4C was the code for CLRA, which would set the Z bit in the condition code, so you could jump to the middle of that instruction and go somewhere different. They had a CMPX followed by no branch instruction that did something similar, I recall.

However, I must bow deeply in your direction for your hardware escapades. My hardware hackery consisted of putting in some piggyback RAM and putting a piece of tape over one of the pins of a ROM pack so you could disassemble it. But you did the real thing.

I am not worthy!

Re: It works!!

Date: 2006-06-02 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriam-e.livejournal.com
I still get a sensuous thrill out of thinking about "LDA".

heheheh You sick fellow. :)
6809 is definitely an amazing processor. The degree of orthogonality in the instruction set is amazing. It's possible to write incredibly tiny bits of code that do a tremendous amount. And I love the way it's no effort at all to write 6809 code that is completely position-independant. That was a real revolution at the time.
I just went back changing "was" to "is" in all that, because of course the 6809 still exists and even better versions exist now, like higher speed ones, and static ones (if I remember rightly), and even versions with onboard ROM, RAM, port chips, and timers.

Yes, I remember looking at that NEXT code in the 6809 FIG FORTH and being amazed. At times the 6809 almost looks designed for FORTH with its two stack registers.

FORTH is a brilliant language. If it wasn't for its reverse polish notation it would have conquered the world long ago. Its list of capabilities are mind boggling:
- tiny, fast executable (4k for the standard language on most machines),
- can be easily and infinitely extended,
- interpreted (interactive) and compiled (small, fast) with no explicit compile stage
- close to the metal (there are a series of processors that actually have FORTH as their machine instruction set!!!)

I've often wondered if it is possible to make a FORTH-like language that doesn't use RPN. That would be really easy to use. But I've never really sat down to explore the possibility. One day I will.

Yeah, I remember those weird instructions in the CoCo BASIC ROMs. I think they had similar code sequences in the Z80 TRS-80 ROMs too (of which I also have voluminous disassemblies also :)

One thing I've always been very attracted to was self-modifying code. But it is very easy to get into very deep water very quickly with that.

:) My hardware fun was not great. The EPROM burner was basically just an Intel port chip that I liked (can't remember which one without digging it out -- yes, I still have it) and a transistor to switch the higher voltage for the burn signal. Everything ran under the CoCo's control, even all the timing, using a simple assembly program. The new VDG mode was just an extra 74LS157 quad switch that altered the signals on some of the video chip's pins. I controlled it from an unused line on one of the PIAs.
Very simple stuff. Other people have done far better hackery.

OCD

Date: 2006-05-30 07:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revbobbob.livejournal.com
I swiped this from somewhere:

I have CDO. It's like OCD, but alphabetical the way it should be.

Re: OCD

Date: 2006-06-02 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriam-e.livejournal.com
I love this.
It immediately goes into my list of quotes. :)
Heheheh "the way it should be" kinda oughta be in italics. :)

Date: 2006-05-24 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbarret.livejournal.com
wow, how fun is that! Now I wanna write a lesbian roman legionaire story ;-0

Hooting from the peanut gallery

Date: 2006-05-24 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gothxxangel.livejournal.com
Please do!! (and let me read it...) The world would be a better place if there was a lesbian roman legionaire story in it!!

I was completely taken with the medieval crossbows, down to reading seriously about how to make them and thinking "Hmmm..." at the same time.

What an amazing site! Now I want to be an SCA too.

Re: Hooting from the peanut gallery

Date: 2006-05-24 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriam-e.livejournal.com
There is probably an SCA group in Japan too. The SCA has spread all around the world. It is an astonishingly gigantic... ummm... club?... association?... group? Members are often used as extras in historical films because they already own the appropriate costumes.

Yeah, it was the mechanics that got me in too. Reading about how they fashioned suits of armour, especially the helmets and elbow joints... Wow! I gotta go back and read more when I have more time.

Date: 2006-05-24 10:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriam-e.livejournal.com
Heheheh :)
At least one of the girls would have to be in (Joan of Arc type) disguise, as they only allowed men into the roman legions as far as I know. The only place for women was in the carriages of prostitutes they took with them. Unless you counted the wives and daughters of patricians who seemed to carry quite a bit of informal power.

Have you seen the brilliant TV series called simply "Rome"? It is a dramatisation of events surrounding the return of Julius Caesar to Rome. If you want to write such a story I recommend immersing yourself in the feel of the time. (Ummm... I'll email you.)

Date: 2006-05-25 12:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sbarret.livejournal.com
I figure there are are two ways to write such a story. The historically acurate way you suggest (with a woman disguised as a man who falls in love w/ one of those prostitutes. or maybe a patrician's daughter).

The other approach is to take an alternate-history view and make an all-female legion. Maybe formed from slaves/prostitutes etc as a form of diversion against the Gallic or Germanic tribes. But they end up being one of the fierces fighting forces in the Roman army ;-)

Cuz chicks can kick ass :D

test

Date: 2006-05-27 01:38 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Hi Miriam, this is that test for my surfing software. Martin

Speaking of armour

Date: 2006-05-30 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] revbobbob.livejournal.com
We saw Henry VIII's armour in the Tower when we were over there 20-some years ago. And yes, everybody who passed that display did a double-take and giggled.

I think he was totally bragging.

Re: Speaking of armour

Date: 2006-06-02 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miriam-e.livejournal.com
heheheh
Maybe battle simply gave him a hard-on, and anticipating this he made room for it. Bit of a worry though. It looks like it is begging for an axe.

knights armur

Date: 2006-06-06 01:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jenna2.livejournal.com
Hi Mims,
That is a nice bit of work and from looking at it I would guess this suite is more for show. It has nice reticulation in it and what would appear to be a "jousting " hoof on the shoulder chest area. My stuff is not nearly as nice but then I'm just a "yo-man" {archer/sword fighter}
This also looks to-be very custom to whom ever was wearing it.

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